Part 1 Introduction
What drives/motivates you as a person?
My motivation would probably be along the lines of I’m contributing to something bigger. I very much feel that society as a whole is very individualistic, which is something I really dislike. The whole idea of people coming together, working towards a greater thing. When you think of some of humanities greatest achievements, it has been with people working together. I think that motivates me, things such as the welfare state. I really appreciate everyone coming together in order to ensure there is a floor that nobody falls beneath, like if they find themselves in destitution or financial difficulty. So I would say that is my biggest motivator. It’s something I do bear in mind, when I am studying, or when I’m working
What quality in people do you value most?
Like most people I’d value loyalty. It’s great to know you can depend on somebody and in general we do think we can rely on people but when it comes to it, you can’t, they are not the greatest support. Loyalty it is something very close to me and in my group of friends it is something I’d look for and value as well.
Who is your role model and why?
As a general rule I actually don’t like having role models, because I think you should live your own life instead of copying somebody else’s stuff and their life. I think we should all just follow our own path, but that said there are people I do admire. People I’d admire would be would be good strong independent people and strong advocates of social justice. People like Mary Robinson who brought herself through the courts, through her presidency, upholding human rights, figures like that around the world. So Mark Robinson would definitely be one. Kofi A. Annan as well, as secretary general of the United Nations. I would also admire a lot of the social democratic politicians around Europe just for their political views. They bring social justice to the forefront for Europe. That was a bit of a circularity answer but yeah.
Part 2 Interviewee’s topics
LGBT
Explain what the LGBT society in University College Cork tries to achieve during each college year?
Primarily the LGBT society is a social society, but there is a nice aspect of activism in it and I think it’s very essential that we have both aspects. So fundamentally year in year out we try to create a safe place for people who might identify as LGBT, who are sure or even just have friends who might identify in that way and might want to support them. During the last year I have being membership officer. Which would be the first point of call for new members. For somebody who is not sure how they feel or they are a bit nervous about joining the society. I would be their helping hand or first port of call and if they need subsequent help from counselling, therapist or any health service. Any aspect about college life, I can point them in the right direction. I think the society has a vital role. I might sound a little snooty but I think it’s more important than other societies, just because it deals with such a fundamental aspect of students life, if they do identify as LGBT or otherwise. We do a lot of socials like I said with campaigns we have been very vocal for marriage equality. We have helped register thousands of students for voting in UCC as well as national campaigns such as “humans of homophobia” which I was part of. I think it’s such a necessary society. When people ask me “What do ye do?” People often have the wrong view. My opinion is that people just assume that we all just talks about being gay. That’s not it at all, that’s really misguided. We just help people along and I have to organise what we call “Coming Out Week” I didn’t encourage people to come out but gave them information on support in relation to doing so. I think If even one person feels more safe and comfortable after that, it was a success. I think that is the nature of the society. It might help only a hand full of people, but we really do help them and that can’t be underestimated.
Do you find any argument from people voting “no” in the gay marriage referendum particularly frustrating?
All of them. I really dislike the ones about children because they really do have nothing to do with the amendment of the Constitution. I’m doing a law degree, I have studied a lot of this in detail and I’m just sick of people talking about things they have no idea about in relation to children. In relation to surrogacy, in relation to what it might do. The Referendum is simply about extending marriage rights to same sex couples. Children will not be effected, in fact it will effect children if I child identifies as gay, lesbian or otherwise. They will have the same prospects as their brothers and sisters if they want to get married in the future. I think that’s all that we are doing. People talk about surrogacy and adoption. Surrogacy is currently unregulated in Ireland. It will be regulated whether this referendum passes or not. Oireachtas will deal with that separately. So that argument is just stupid. It really annoys me as well when you see people arguing with the yes side such as Paddy Manning who might identify as gay. Saying “no we don’t need to get married as we as a very small minority of people” I just think if you appose same sex marriage, don’t marry somebody of the same sex simple as. Leave everybody else do it. I know you probable agree with a lot of that. There are just so many arguments that are so ill founded and then the religious ones are just utterly stupid. An awful amount of them are just based on homophobia and they are opposed to gay people in general as opposed to the marriage of two gay people and that was a debate that should have been ended in 1993 when homophobia was decriminalised and not in 2015 when we have moved on.
What would your advice be to a young person who is in the closet and does not feel they are in a supportive environment?
I think these days there is definitely a support system there for everybody and it’s called the internet. There is a lot of information that can be accessed. It is nice to have a friendly face to support you and if you don’t have that in your family and friends it is immensely difficult but there are helplines you can ring up. There are switchboards, there’s people you can email in search of support and advice. I think there was a campaign launched in the USA a few years ago called the “It gets better campaign”. They use celebrities who were LGBT or LGBT allies in which they told people it does get better. It could be a few days, weeks, a few months. Anybody who I have spoken too who has come out has always said it is hard the first few times but it does get easier. As you grow up you find people are more accepting of it and you will surround yourself with people who like that part of you or people who don’t even think of that part of you. You are so great in other aspects of your personality. At the time coming out is the biggest thing in the world and it can be so bad for people’s mental health if they are not going to be accepted and they don’t get the support. But I suppose the advice I would give is things do get better and there is always somebody to talk to on the internet if not your friends and family.
Travel
What are you hoping to achieve from your year abroad in Copenhagen?
From my year in Copenhagen I’m hoping to achieve another outlook I suppose. As I said earlier I do think society is very individualistic but in the northern countries I think they have moved away from that. They are very much about society as a whole and they all help each other. In Denmark, it’s known for it’s quality of living in regard that nobody is very poor but by the same token nobody is very rich. I think that is fair that the wealth is spread out more equally. In terms of experience I really do think I will be opened up to many new experiences, ideas, international people from all corners of the globe from the Danes themselves. I still live at home which is not the most ideal situation when you’re in college when you want to be out fee and the whole lot. So I’m looking forward to kind of fleeing that and having to be a little independent. I really do look forward to the travel opportunities. Going to other cities and Countries and all that and I just think that, that’s something that stands to any person. Travelling I just think it’s such a wonderful thing to do so I am really looking forward to that.
Why did you choose Copenhagen? Is there anything about Danish culture that particularly interests you?
I think here, it’s being in the media a lot lately, it’s really admired for it’s standard of living. I think 50% of people cycle to work school or college every day. It’s fantastic that they don’t rely on the car the same way we do and I think people have their cities back because they are not completely taken over by cars and what not. I like their sense of community there. I real thing that did draw me to it was something that might sound a little strange. It was television because Denmark was being producing very strong TV dramas in the past few years and have gone on air on TG4 and BBC. Things such as, Borgen which is a Danish political drama. The Killing which was a murder mystery and The Bridge was another murder mystery thing. I think that exposed a lot of people to Danish culture. TV is not always the most realistic portrayal of real life .But I think it’s something that drew me in. Even their political system is all about getting general agreement as opposed to really strong view that might disenfranchise people. I suppose in general the society there is what has drawn me and the society seems like a great place.
Part 3 Interviewer’s Topics
Technology
Do we rely on our mobile phones too much?
I think we do. I think they have enriched our lives and they have made things a lot easier. Instead of having to carry around a few books, notebooks and a diskman or whatever for your music it’s nice that it’s all combined into one. But I do think we use them too much. Even if we looked out the window now we would see people twiddling their thumbs away on a phone and I just think it’s great that you can communicate with people so easy and so instantaneously, but at the same time you will see so often in social situations people are there they might have met up and one person there on their phone instead of looking at the person across the table from them. I think it can be a bit rude, but we are just so used to it now it’s just accepted. People do rely on them too much, we should curb our use of them. How do we do that? It is handy, if you are lost you can use the map application or you can google something on the internet but I just think we are living our lives too much through our phones. You see it at concerts, people record the concerts rather than putting it down and looking at what they have paid money to see, and I think that is frustration. So yes we do use our phones too much.
Would you ever find yourself spending too much time on social media? What is too much time?
Admittedly I do, so I am preaching to myself in regards to that question. I do use it too much but I am conscious of how much I use it. What I have tried to do lately is switch off my phone for a few hours, so I am not constantly contactable. I don’t think you should be despite what we feel about modern society. So that is something I am due to curb out of myself. It’s hard to quantity what too much time is. I suppose if you are staying up late at night rather than sleeping because of social media or you’re looking at it rather than talking to the friend you have met up with. It can’t be quantified in time, but common sense tells us a lot there. 1
Woman in the workplace
Is there anything we can do to make sure woman are treated more equally in the workplace?
Well on the note of woman, woman’s issues are something that I would hold close to my heart. I’v had a few rants over the last few minutes about social justice. I’d be a hypocrite if I did not talk about woman’s rights. I think in the workplace people do feel woman are treated equally but statistics would still say woman are paid less for the same work and things like that. It’s better than it was but that’s no excuse for them not getting paid the same as men. I would say in the workplace, things that would work would be gender quotas. People do appose quotas they think they are giving woman rights over men but all they are doing is giving woman an equal chance. Whereas for millennia they have being subjected to mal-treatment . Men have being given president over them. I would say quotas are definitely for the workplace. They just work really effectively in the countries they have being implemented in such as Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands as well. When it comes to boards of companies a few countries have made a mandatory quota where 40% of boards have to be woman. I think that is such an encouraging thing. You’re saying that their gender should not be something that prevents them from becoming a CEO of a company or on the board or whatever. I think in relation to the treatment of woman, education is something that needs to be hammered through again and again. It’s not okay to judge woman’s appearance because you would not necessarily do that to a man. Education and quotas, they are the solution to treating woman more equally in the workplace.
Do people in general have a poor concept of what exactly feminism is?
I think the concept of feminism in the public conscious is improving. Historically people would have thought of feminist as a barb man hating woman. People have come to realise lately, maybe in the last year or two that feminism isn’t just that. That might be the extreme aspects of it but it’s just about wanting woman to be treated equal to men. For woman to be seen as equal. Peoples’s perception of feminism is changing, maybe not as much as we like, but it is definitely changing. I think education is the only way to show that. In college I would have met a lot of people who declare themselves as feminist and they would call people up on views that are antifeminists or meninist as they are so often called. Obout views that are outdated that belong in the 1950’s. The perception is changing but we need to work more to change what more people think feminism is.
Part 4 Philosophical questions
How important is it you do what you love for a career?
I think it’s immensely important, it’s all well and good slaving away 9-5 at a job that you might hate just for the pay cheque but I do not think that’s sustainable. I think you really need to be passionate about what you do and I think that should be payment enough in itself. University College Cork (UCC) has a campus radio, I’d always listen to it when I’m driving and they do some very good documentaries. They were talking about these students some Law students that went over to Atlanta who went over to help with a trust that was set up by a lawyer. He was kind of against the death penalty and things like that in the state of Georgia and he had worked for a big American law firm where he earned one of two million dollars a year but in this job with this foundation he would only be earning 40-50,000 dollars a year. Which is still fairly high but still nowhere near a million. He was happy because he was genuinely perusing what he loved. I think that is a lot more satisfying than for the man in a corporate environment. It’s important to do what you like and I don’t think that’s emphasized enough in school. When it comes to things like the leaving cert. People, students, parents, we are all guilty of it, we are all guilty of leaning towards what you would be guaranteed a job for rather than what you have an interest in and I think that is so wrong. If you love something enough and you work at it you will find yourself a job no bother. It might take time but you are better off pursuing your passion